 Replay - Mise a jour du rulling, Mise a jour officielle de Mai 2006
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| QUOTE | A replay is triggered when an attack has been declared, and then during the attack a potential attack target on the opponent’s side of the field appears or disappears. A replay can also occur because the attack target is no longer a legal target during the attack.
A replay causes the attack to “rewind” to the time when the attacking player chooses their attack target. The attacking player can choose to keep attacking with the monster, but choose a new attack target (including the original target, if possible & desired), or to not attack with that monster at all.
Note that a replay involves the continuation of the attack or non-continuation of the attack. It does not involve a new attack. If you pay 1000 Life Points to attack with “Dark Elf”, and a replay occurs, you do not have to pay again in order to continue the attack.
The monster that was attacking when the replay occurred is still considered to have attacked the original target, even if you decide not to continue with attacking that target when the replay happens. It can not attack again after another of your monsters, nor can you manually change its battle position in Main Phase 2.
A replay does not rewind to the beginning of the Battle Phase. So attacks by other monsters that turn which have been completed are totally unaffected by a replay.
Example #1 of a replay:
The turn player attacks with “Battle Ox”. His opponent has no monsters on the field, so the turn player thinks he will get to attack his opponent’s Life Points directly. But the opponent activates “Call of the Haunted” and Special Summons “Blue-Eyes White Dragon” from the Graveyard. This triggers a replay because a potential attack target has appeared on the opponent’s side of the field. The turn player goes back to selecting “Battle Ox’s” attack target, and can decide NOT to attack.
Example #2 of a replay:
The opponent has a face-up Attack Position “Magician of Faith” and a face-up Attack Position “Reflect Bounder”. The turn player attacks the “Magician of Faith” with “Gemini Elf”. The opponent responds by activating “Mystic Wok”, Tributing “Magician of Faith”. Because a potential attack target has disappeared, a replay occurs and the turn player returns to target selection for the attack. The turn player can now choose to have “Gemini Elf” attack “Reflect Bounder”, or not attack at all.
Example #3 of a replay:
The opponent controls only 2 cards: “The Legendary Fisherman” and “Umi”. The turn player controls “Battle Ox” and “Summoned Skull”. The turn player attacks with “Battle Ox”, and attacks directly because of the effect of “The Legendary Fisherman”. The opponent responds to the attack by destroying “Umi” with “Mystical Space Typhoon”. A potential new attack target (“The Legendary Fisherman”) appears on the opponent’s side of the field. A replay occurs. The turn player can continue “Battle Ox’s” attack, but it would be destroyed by “The Legendary Fisherman”. If the turn player calls off the attack, and destroys “The Legendary Fisherman” with “Summoned Skull”, “Battle Ox” cannot attack again this turn because it already declared an attack.
Example #4 of a replay:
The turn player controls “Injection Fairy Lily” equipped with “Shooting Star Bow – Ceal”, which allows it to attack directly. “Injection Fairy Lily” declares an attack against the opponent’s Life Points, but the opponent responds with “Dust Tornado” and destroys the “Shooting Star Bow – Ceal”. Because “Injection Fairy Lily” can no longer attack directly, its attack is no longer legitimate and a replay occurs.
Example #5 of a replay:
The turn player controls “Asura Priest” (1700 ATK), which can attack each opponent’s monster once each. The opponent has “Mokey Mokey” equipped with “United We Stand” (1100 ATK) and has a face-down “Scapegoat” card. The turn player attacks “Mokey Mokey” with “Asura Priest”. The opponent activates “Scapegoat” and Special Summons 4 “Sheep Tokens”, raising “Mokey Mokey’s” ATK to 4300. A replay happens and the turn player must decide whether to continue to attack, and against what target. If “Asura Priest” continues its attack against “Mokey Mokey”, it will be destroyed. So the player continues the attack but changes the target to a “Sheep Token”, destroying it. After that, the “Asura Priest” attacks the other 3 “Sheep Tokens” and destroys them all. Even though “Mokey Mokey” is back at 1100 ATK, “Asura Priest” already declared an attack against “Mokey Mokey” this turn (and then backed off), so it cannot attack “Mokey Mokey” again.
Example #6 of a replay:
The turn player controls “Chaos Sorcerer” and attacks directly when the opponent has no monsters. The opponent activates “Gateway to Dark World” and Special Summons “Goldd, Wu-Lord of Dark World”. A replay occurs. The turn player chooses not to continue “Chaos Sorcerer’s” attack. During Main Phase 2, the turn player cannot activate the effect of “Chaos Sorcerer”, because it did declare an attack.
Example #1 of a situation that is NOT a replay:
The turn player attacks with “Blue-Eyes White Dragon”, attacking the opponent’s “Dark Magician”. The opponent activates “Reinforcements”, increasing “Dark Magician”’s ATK to 3000. This does not trigger a replay, as no potential attack targets have appeared or disappeared on the opponent’s side of the field, and the attack proceeds as normal.
Example #2 of a situation that is NOT a replay:
The turn player attacks with “Blue-Eyes White Dragon”, attacking “Dark Magician”. The opponent activates “Mirror Wall” in the Battle Step, cutting “Blue-Eyes White Dragon’s” ATK in half. This does not trigger a replay. Even if the attacking player activates “Scapegoat” or “Call of the Haunted” to increase his number of monsters, this does not trigger a replay as no new potential attack targets are appearing on the opponent’s side of the field. However, if the attacking player activates “Ojama Trio” to give the opponent 3 new monsters, then a replay occurs because new potential attack targets have appeared on the field (the “Ojama Tokens”).
Example #3 of a situation that is NOT a replay:
The turn player attacks with a monster, and the opponent activates “Gravity Bind” to stop the attack, or flips the attacking monster face-down with “Book of Moon”. Even though the attack has stopped, this is not a replay. Even if the “Gravity Bind” is destroyed, or a card flips the monster back into face-up attack position during the Battle Phase, the monster cannot attack again. These are not examples of the attack no longer being legal. Instead, the attack is actually stopping. |
Important à prendre en considération surtout à quelques jours des nationaux ^^
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| ouah |
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Excellent, avec la veille réalisée par les membres du forum, on va tous être des pros du ruling et aussi des pros en anglais ;-)
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| [B-S]Irou |
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Petite traduction :
Le monstre qui attaquait quand le replay se produit est toujours considéré comme le fait qu'il a attaqué sa cible originale, même si vous décidez de ne pas continuer d'attaquer cette cible quand le replay se produit. Il ne peut pas attaquer après que vos autres monstres ait attaqués, et vous ne pouvez pas changer manuellement sa position de combat en Main Phase 2.
Un peu chaud je trouve mais ça peut autant avantager votre adversaire que vous-même.
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| Jackass |
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Pour les non anglophones, avant, en cas de replay, on pouvait choisir de ne pas attaquer tout de suite ou pas du tout, et par exemple de réattaquer en fin de battle ou de changer la position de son monstre main phase 2.
Maintenant, en fait, l'attaque est bien déclenchée, et on peut choisir de la stopper ou de la rediriger, mais le monstre est considéré comme ayant attaqué.
Donc fini les j'attaque avec Kycoo, l'autre fait Call sur Jinzo et hop, j'annule mon attaque et je mets Kycoo en defense. T'es grillé coco.
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| Dim |
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Euh... pour la défense, ça faisait déjà longtemps qu'on ne pouvait pas le remettre en def en main phase 2 s'il avait attaqué et puis replay...
Donc globalement, y'a que le fait que soit il continue son attaque, soit il l'a fait pas mais sera tjs comme considéré comme ayant attaqué qui change pour moi.
Même si c'est un gros changement... faudra juste faire gaffe avec quel monstre on attaque en premier :)
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| Jackass |
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J'ai perdu tous mes mécanismes -_-
Je vais mettre longtemps pour retrouver un niveau correct ^^
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| Desska |
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Ah c'est donc pour ça que sur le jeu gba 2006, on était obligé de soit continuer l'attaque du même monstre, soit c'était foutu pour celui la.
Je n'ai pas lu entierement mais si je comprend bien, s'il y a replay, soit on continue l'attaque du monstre, soit on n'attaque pas et on ne pourra pas redéclarer une attaque plus tard ou même changer de position (ce monstre là).
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| Dim |
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Voilà, t'as très bien compris Desska :)
Je trouve ce rulling beaucoup plus logique... :)
Faudra juste faire plus attention, c'est tout ^^
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| Picsou |
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| QUOTE (Dim @ Vendredi 05 Mai 2006 12h10) | Voilà, t'as très bien compris Desska :)
Je trouve ce rulling beaucoup plus logique... :)
Faudra juste faire plus attention, c'est tout ^^ |
C'est clair !
J'attaque, et replay !
Miracle
J'ai jamais attaqué !!
J'ai toujours trouvé ça débile
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| Fabiennus |
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Moi ce que je trouve bizarre c'est de faire ca juste avant le France... perso je suis pas qualifié mais si c'est mis en vigueur pour ce tournoi assez important au final ca risque de causer quelques soucis par manque d'habitude de jouer ainsi, je trouve ca dommage, mais c'est vrai que cette regle est plus logique (et plus contraignante pour les jeunes) que la precedente
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| Francis |
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ben ca change bcp de chose pour le chaos sorcerer par exemple
imaginons qu il n'y ai rien en face ou un faible monstre et que tu décide de l'attaquer a ce moment la y'a un replay et tu décide de ne plus attaquer tu ne peux plus remove ce que je trouve purement logique surtout pour le cas du call en battle
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